NI Maschine vs. Akai MPC-Renaissance

I’m a Maschine user but I’m seeking about the MPC-Renaissance for a while now (actually since its introduction in January 2012). I don’t care much about the Maschine vs. MPC Renaissance war. I just want something that just works.
I had some MPC in my hands (I had the 2000XL and 60 at work and we had the 2500 and 3000 at the studio… we actually sold the 2500 few days ago and replace it with the Renaissance ).
I started to use Maschine because I use a lot of software and I was already using GURU and Battery to load my samples. The MPC would be only used as a Sequencer tied to the software. Therefore, Maschine was just the logical next step for me.
There’s a lot of good ideas on both camp, but there’s also a LOT of really stupid things on both camp too. Actually, after few days of intense test and comparison, I’m in the conclusion that at the moment, neither Maschine nor the MPC Renaissance are good enough to me.
I did these tests because I was considering to resell Maschine mk1 for Maschine mk2 or the MPC Renaissance. But since it’s not worth to resell Maschine mk1 to buy Maschine mk2, I started to consider to buy the MPC Renaissance instead (mainly if I’m gonna exchange some beat with the studio, etc…). So I only started to compare to know what I could gain or loose by going with a new platform.
I found out that everything that NI screw up, Akai did it very well… (that’s a good point, hu?). But everything that NI did well, Akai found a way to screw it up. Sometimes it’s just little details that some of you might not care much, but if it’s something you personally wants and needs every day to work and make some music, it could be very frustrating.
It’s sad, because there’s not better solutions on the market anyway (IMHO and to my knowledge). Here are some of the Pros and Cons I personally noticed. It could perhaps help other people to figure out if it’s something important for them or not.
First of all, even if they’re both a hardware controller tied to a drum machine software, there’s one MAJOR difference between Maschine and the MPC-R which is the way to handle the Sequencer. 
On Maschine:
the PADs are the center of the Sequencer (the Pads are actually the Tracks), therefore you load samples or plugin directly on the Pads. You can “only” have 8 Groups/Bank of 16 Pads (which is 128 Samples or Plugins). However, you can have on the same Group/bank, one pad with a sample, another one with a plugin, etc… This is really practical if you like to mix-up your sources and use a lot of plugin (having some kick and snare for Kontakt sample bank), hi-hat from some home made samples, and some percussion from a different plugin. It’s also very great for the guys who make a lot of live, easily and quickly turn on/off a pad, etc… It’s very practical because any pad (regardless if it’s a sample, a plugin or a midi insturment) could become a chromatic instruments (with Shift + Pad Mode). There’s no need to choose if a track/pad will be a drum or a chromatic instruments, which is cool for tuned snaress, kicks, etc… However, you can’t have one plugin on a pad and use it on several Pad (or I haven’t figure out how to do that). And you can’t have more than 1 sample per Pad. You can merge several Sample on a same Pad, but you can’t tweak them, have different volume, tune, pitch, velocity response, filters, etc…
On the MPC Renaissance:
the Tracks are the center of the Sequencer, therefore there’s 128 Tracks you can load a plugin or the Sample Player Engine on it (MPC). The Sample Player has 8 Banks of 16 Pads (which means 128 Pads). Each Pads can have up to 4 Samples (Layer, Split, Round-Robin, Random, etc…). It’s actually very more powerful to have custom sounds. We can easily use the Pads on several Tracks. However, we can’t have a sample on one Pad and a plugin on another one. So if you want to use several plugin (BFD2, Kontakt, Reaktor, etc…) on the pads, you need to use a new track for each plugin and you can play them on Live. And you have to choose if a track will be a drumpad track (with 16 samples on the pads) or a chromatic instrument (Keygroup). You can’t quickly switch a pad with a sample in a chromatic instrument with the view of the piano roll to do some chromatic sequencing.
Maschine PROs: 
+ Software in 64 Bits.
+ Really good integration with software, mainly with Komplete.
+ Great bundled Content (effects, Massive, or even some samples…)
+ The Universal Browser with Tag words. You can easily tag your kits to find them later even if you have thousands of samples in your library
+ Very nice GUI (mainly with the 1.8 Update and colors)
+ Scene mode (very similar to Ableton Live… very useful for Live performance)
+ Keep the Plugin on the Pads from one Pattern to another one (no duplicate)
+ Very fast workflow to browse, load and open a plugin, tweak it, add effects, etc…
+ Quick way to adjust the swing (per song, per pad, etc…)
+ Quick way to adjust the pitch
+ Quick way to use a sample on a Pad in a Chromatic Mode (Shift+Pad Mode open the Piano roll on any sample or plugin loaded on a pad)
+ Drag and Drop of a Project directly in your DAW (in midi or audio)
+ Multi-colors Pads (on Maschine mk2)
Maschine CONs:
– Almost inexistent hardware/Midi integration and support (in 2012, it’s really bad)
– Only 16 Midi Out Channel with no way to select the Midi interface or Midi Port. (there’s people that still use hardware gear. Not everyone are living in the NI software dreamland)
– No Program Change, MSB/LSB, No SysEx, etc…
– No easy way to “transpose” the 16 Pads when you’re in the Piano Roll Mode (such the dedicated Bank button on the MPC-R)
– Midi Timing is definitely not grooving properly such Legacy Groove Machines (it’s reacting too much like a computer, too straight)
– Some Edition Pages are confusing (very little page indicators)
– No Mixer with a general view on all Pads/Tracks, all plugins and Effects
– Missing some hardware immediate controller buttons (num pad, full level,…)
MPC Renaissance PROs:
+ Great Hardware integration, as usual with 4 Midi Out and 2 Midi In
+ We can use more than 16 Midi channel in a song
+ Support of Program Change
+ Easy way to transpose the Pads with the 8 banks
+ Akai Midi Timing that immediately groove “out of the box”
+ 4 Samples per Pads with advanced editing (Layer, Split, Round-Robin, Random, etc…)
+ Export options (including Mp3)
+ Better hardware controller with some useful command (jogwheel, num pad)
+ 16 Q-Link with Touch and LEDs
+ Conserved MPC Workflow from previous models (you almost already know how to use it)
+ Tilted Screen
MPC Renaissance CONs:
– NO 64 Bits (in 2012 it’s really bad, there’s people that use very large sample banks and/or plugin that require more than 3Gb of memory)
– Almost no software integration, mainly with big name company such NI, Eastwest, Spectrasonics, etc…
– Poor bundle (there’s few plugin 809, Wub, etc… but that’s not top high-end content)
– Poor Browser with no real smart search or keyword, tags, and stuff… Not the most efficient browser
– Ugly UI (not as clean and pure as Maschine, bad colors, too much information, sometimes with very old school (“too much old school”) layout and organization.
– Not practical for Live
– No way to have plugin and samples on the same pad bank
– Multiple instance of the same plugin on different Sequences (??)
– No fast way to change the swing and hear it in realtime
– No way to switch one pad in a chromatic mode (need to create a new track to have it with the piano roll??)
– Laborious export in the DAW (no drag and drop?)
Note that I only checked the MPC Renaissance for few days only now. So, I might just haven’t find some point I noted in the CONs. If so, please fee free to correct me and let me know how to do it (I’d be glad to remove it from my list).
I also didn’t compare the fact to have Audio interface or not (because in that case we should compare it to the MPC Studio) and if we add the price for an audio interface to Maschine, we end up to the same price than the MPC Renaissance. So, I just skip this part.
I also skip the whole big “Sampling” part… not because it’s not important, but just because I haven’t really tried it on the MPC Renaissance and I haven’t check deeply the new Stretching on the version 1.8 of Maschine. So, it’s a whole thing we need to look careful at… so I just prefer to not comment about it for now and maybe come back later on that when I will know more about it on both system.
Conclusion on NI Maschine:
At this point, I find Maschine useless if you also want to work with several multi-timbral hardware gear. It’s sad because it does detect multi-port midi interface such the Motu midi express or so, but there’s just no way to select it in the software (while we could change the midi channel on knob 1, the midi port on knob 2 and the midi interface on knob 3… just simple as that). I just can’t believe after so many update (1.1, 1.5, 1.6, 1.7, 1.8…), there’s still no multiple midi port/interface in Maschine. It just shows how much NI does care about anything else than themselves. They probably just prefer you to use their software only… but that’s wrong. There’s tones of stuff I still need to use in hardware (some Moog, Virus, 808, 909, 303, some workstations and expander, etc…).
Who knows how long we will still have to wait to have better support for hardware gear? Since NI is initially a Software company, it might never come…
Conclusion on Akai MPC Renaissance:
And at this point, I also find the MPC Renaissance useless if you also want to work with some very large plugins such Kontakt, BFD2, Spectrasonics Omnisphere, etc… We could easily go over 3Gb of memory with only a dozen of large plugin. With a 32 Bits support only, it’s a real bargain and limitation. I just can’t believe in 2012 someone can release an application that is only in 32 bits, mainly when it’s a brand new software… We’re not talking about Akai releasing an update of an existing application and they haven’t convert it in 64 bits… no it’s a brand new software. They should have gone in 64 bits from start.
Who knows how long we will still have to wait to have a new 64 bits version of the software? Since Akai is initially Hardware company, it might never come…
We did noted some sound difference between Maschine and the MPC-Renaissance using the exact same samples and similar beat on both (with full level, etc…). Maschine looks to have no treatment and is playing the sample back like a regular sample player.
The MPC-Renaissance in the other hand, sounds a little bit different and is apparently simulating the previous models… It’s just like it there was a Compressor/Limiter on the Master. The whole beat sounds more glued together. If we could turn it off (for the one that don’t want it), it would be actually a very good feature because it sounds great.
But some of us might just want to keep the sound the way it is? I just found that weird because I couldn’t decide if it’s a great thing or not.
My Wish:
I wish to get a MPC Renaissance mk2 that would have multi-colors pads (such MMk2) and some fast shortcut, for Piano Roll (make any Pad of a DrumPad Track as a Keygroup Track), Ableton Live Mode (SCENE) and a multi-color Display.
It would have a 64 bits software, with a nice black UI with less confusing text, better window space management, some color indication, with a categorized and normalized browser with keywords, tags, and full software integration (with presets of each plugin directly accessible in the browser, by category or instrument family, etc…), ability to drag and drop the midi sequence and/org audio directly in your DAW.
My Other Wish:
I wish to get a Maschine mk3 (with 2.0 software) that would have an embedded audio interface with multiple midi outs, more controllers (V-Pot and/or faders), as well as more quick function buttons (numpad, full level, bank,…).
It would allow to have multiple midi interface and ports, supporting Control Change, MSB/LSB, SysEx, etc… We would have up to 4 or even 8 samples per Pads (such GEIST) with layers, split, round-robin, random, etc… It would have complete software integration to select presets of any plugins directly from the controller. It would have a better Midi Timing and Audio Converter Filters with instant access. It would have a Mixer view and would run on multi-core system, two tilted color screen and an easy export windows.
That’s it for now…
Add-on October 23rd 2012:
There’s actually a way to transpose the 16 Pads in Maschine in Piano roll mode, by pressing Pad Mode + Menu button 5-8.
The menu buttons 5 & 6 are used for Semi-tone up & down, and the menu buttons 7  & 8 are used for Octave up & down.
It’s another demonstration that prove that sometimes the LCD Displays on Maschine don’t show all important information. They could have reduce the size of the graphics for the Pad Notes and add another top row for the function associated on the Menu button. It would have been clearer. 

47 thoughts on “NI Maschine vs. Akai MPC-Renaissance

    • The MPC-Ren would be better if it would work in 64 bits the same way Maschine would be better if it would have better midi integration.

      Therefor, there’s no “better one”. If you say the MPC-Ren is better, I can give you 5 reasons why it’s not. And if you say Maschine is better, I can give you another 5 reasons why it’s not.

      Akai comes from the hardware world and started to include some software features but they haven’t reach the perfect middle place yet.

      NI comes from the software world and started to include some hardware features but they haven’t reach the perfect middle place yet.

      The only advantage Akai has right now is that it could work for past setup (home) studios with hardware gear, external sound modules, expanders, workstations, etc…

      But NI has the advantage to work better for software which is definitely the future for setup (home) studios where more and more hardware devices will disappear in profit of software solutions (mixer, tape recorder, outboard gear effects, synths and instruments, etc…)

      But so far, nobody reach the perfect middle place for hybrid “hardware & software” solution and some of us still need to deal with hardware gear such some of us needs to deal with software solutions. Anyone who blindly takes a position for a brand or a product, is just not objective enough to be aware of these products limitations.

      It’s up to anyone to figure out what is the best one to fit the job for their needs, workflow and habits.

      But if you’re like me, using both a lot of hardware gear (808, 909, 303, Moog, Virus and other stuff like that), as well as using a lot of modern software (effects, synths and huge sample libraries such Komplete 8 Ultimate, Eastwest, Spectrasonics, Symphobia, VSL, Arturia, and other stuff like that)… none of Maschine nor the MPC-Ren is a perfect solution.

      Luckily, it could be solve in future software update…

  1. Really great review, you just forgot to mention that Maschine is almost bug frew hile mpc ren is a bug nightmare even after 1.1 upgrade.

    • Thank you 😉

      You are completely right and that’s what I was mentioning when I said that NI is way better for the software (even thought they don’t have the multi-core support yet).

      There’s still few bugs in Maschine (1.8.1) thought, but definitely less than in the MPC-Ren which not only crash but also corrupts the whole files you were using, making impossible to re-open a sequence you just did.

      THAT, IMHO, that’s a HUGE problem and that’s one of the reason I can’t rely on it. You can spend an hour making a beat and for no reason you can loose everything. It already happens few times to me but luckily it was just for some personal test and not for a customer “perfect beat”. Otherwise, I’d have been really pissed off.

  2. i just want to be able to make smooth rhythms, I prefer not to go with the NI, because it looks a little bit like a childs toy, and that as spidouz says the similarities and differences go hand in hand, but more people are tooting down the NI. for example the responsiveness to the pads on the NI are supposedly garbage in comparison to the REN.

    To be honest, it’s a persons creativity that makes the sounds beats et cetera not the equipment. I just bought the dubturbo program and made a beat on it that can blow timbo, storch, neps, riley, dupri and the rest clean out the water. AND I JUST GOT STARTED PRODUCING

    • And when you’ll be more experienced producing, you’ll know that you can make music with whatever tools fit better your needs. It goes well beyond a product. Everyone that blindly trashing a product/brand over another one without even having tested by themselves, are just people that can’t be objective.

      Maschine pads are actually very responsive and far from being garbage. All MPCs don’t have the same pads responsiveness and feelings. Use a MPC 500/1000 and then use a MPC 2000 or 3000 and you’re not gonna have the same responsiveness and feelings in any way. Some people will like one model over another one, but that’s only personal feels and therefor it’s not a comparison criteria.

      Personally? I like the Maschine Pads over the MPC-2500, but it’s just my point of view, so I even don’t mention it in this review/comparison. Touch by yourself, try by yourself and figure out what you like the most instead to join the stupid internet trashing trolls.

      Also, the look of a product doesn’t reflect the way it makes music. You might not like the look of Maschine, but again, that’s a personal taste and not a technical facts that could be taken seriously in a review/comparison. Everyone can figure out if they like the look of a product…

      I can do smooth beat with Maschine, with the MPC-R, with a Pad controller tied to GURU or whatever else I want to use. The product doesn’t make the music for yourself. Products are tools to help you to make music… that’s it.

      • right, which is exactly why I’d choose the REN, right now it fits my needs. My thing is i’m thirty, I’m not going to be wearing the same clothes i used to, or do the things I used to when I was 18. So, i’m not going to buy a product that looks a bit childish TO ME. if its your cup of coffee thats fine, if I hear your music I’m not going to ask to see your equipment first and listen to them after.

        as far as ‘internet trashing trolls’, LOL, I’d argue that i’d quicker take heed to a few REALISTIC reviews than go out and purchase either and be dissapointed. Let’s face it, if you really want a good review you’ll know how to separate trolls from honest reviewers. You’re an honest reviewer, i’m sure many aren’t. Let me ask you this, how likely would it be that the REN would update to 64bit software?

      • If the MPC-Ren is right for you, buy it and if it’s the Maschine that is right for you, then you should buy Maschine.
        In any case, we need to buy what is right for us, that’s the most important thing.

        You’re right… some people are way too focus on the kind of equipment anyone use, how it looks, how much it cost, and so forth… instead to listen the music first. That should be the only and main concern first. So looks, design, etc… is indeed not a criteria to the result quality, but it’s indeed a criteria for the user because he will be using this product for hours and hours… So if you don’t like the look of an instrument, I understand you prefer to buy something else. To me, it makes completely sense.

        However, while you think Maschine looks childish, some could say it looks great. Everyone has an opinion on that and that’s what I wanted to mention in my reply and that’s why I prefer to not take a position on that… just like the feel of the Pads. I’m not accusing you to be a troll. From your smart reply here you definitely prove you’re not one. I was just suggesting that everyone should touch and feel the Pads (or any other aspect of the instruments) by themselves to make their opinion by themselves and not by some reviews we can read here and there on the internet (including mine ;)).

        Regarding the 64 bits, I have absolutely no idea when if it will come or even when. I have no direct contact with Akai, and I don’t know anything about their roadmap. I actually would be curious to know and even know their motivation to not go in 64 bits in the first place. Not having a 64 bits software today is actually a very very weird and bad decision. And if it hasn’t been done, it’s not something you can easily and quickly add, it requires a lot of work if it hasn’t been thought in the first place… That’s why it takes a long time for some companies to have their DAW in 64 bits (such Ableton Live that just came up with 64 bits, or Avid that still doesn’t have ProTools in 64 bits, etc…).

        The 64 bits goes very deep in the software architecture, just like the Midi Integration for Maschine. After all these years, if NI didn’t include more MIDI Integration, it’s probably because they haven’t think about it from the first place… and it’s also not something you can easily and quickly fix and add… that’s why there’s so much updates without anything about it. I’m kind of worry it could be the same thing with Akai that could release a tons of great updates with great features but nothing about the 64 bits…

        That’s what I think, but it’s just my guess. I don’t know any internal secrets from Akai nor NI. So, only future will tell…

    • I heard it was the other way round on pads, that maschine had way more responsive pads. Plus, I have to say, saying that you can ‘blow out of the water’ professional producers as a newbie is A) Shit we all heard before – everyone thinks their shit is dope B) delusional and C) egotistical. When you sell albums, showing that OTHERS agree with your over inflated sense of your own abilities we’ll listen. Until then STFU

  3. which one will allow you to change the tempo in your song?

    I won’t even touch the ren until they iron those bugs out, corrupting the whole file is not acceptable!

  4. good review. i know everyone said this, but i wish they just made a mpc that could attached to software when in final stages rather than just attached to a mac. my reason for this is mpc last over 10 years sometimes, ive seen in. any mac book is like a 5 year max thing. pretty lame…

    makes me miss my mpc 2500, but its ok, it was lacking effects that i enjoy. thats almost the only reason i moved to maschine sadly. the pads are alright, i like the mpc pads too, but i wish they were just a touch more sensitive which im assuming they did with the ren. but i just wish i was hardware, lol.

    still, jjos is the king shit. miss all that, but the one thing i dont miss is browsing through all my files on my cf card or hard drive. that got annoying once your sample/project numbers add up. maschine is good, but damn… mpc has to get this right. i have yet to purchase a ren. but if they keep updating, nextyear i could see it happening. that or im gonna shop for a brand new mpc 2500 just to keep for myself. i saw a couple out there still 😛

    you should be able to make anythings almost with anything, but drum machine has to be stable, especially if they cost over a grand and are a controller…

    well someone gotta get it right one of these days…

    • I agree on most of what you’re saying.

      But regarding the fact to be attached to a software, it’s not a big deal. Even if the computer dies 5 years from now, it would still be possible to run the application on a brand new computer that will also last 5 more years. In theory we can run very old applications in modern computer… as long it’s compatible. That’s the problem.

      But if we have 64 bits application, we should be quite safe (not completely thought). Because we will have no need for 128 bits system anytime soon. We had a lot of 32 applications that weren’t working anymore when we switch for a new 64 bits OS. That’s the reason why I wish the MPC-Ren software would be in 64 bits.

      Another problem for long future view is actually the future of Mac OS X and Windows 7. Both OSes are probably destined to disappear in a near future in profit of iOS, Android and Win 8 RT. No-one is sure yet, and no-one can predict it, but we will see some changes in that domain, if it’s not next year, maybe in the next 5 years for sure… So it will be very interesting to see where it goes from there.

      Both Akai and NI already have an iOS version of their software (MPC Fly and iMachine). Maybe in future, we could just take our iPhone/iPad and plug it in USB to Maschine or the MPC-Ren and use them just like we do now with the MacBook… That would be cool since we can do everything without looking the screen 😉

      I’m just thinking out loud…

  5. Great review!
    Ive been sitting on the fence for 2 years, deciding whether or not to retire my 2000xl and move into “the box” but, Im glad I waited…(cause once you go inside the box, its hard to get out)
    Look at AKAI, and how many times they have screwed up in the past: bad pads on the red/blue mpc 1000, poor specs on the 5000 compared to the 4000, buggy software for the 5000, and slow, slow response to these issues. The mpc 500 was a joke because you couldnt play all of your programs made on other machines ’cause it only had 12 pads, while all the others had 16!
    I have very little faith in AKAI to recognize their faults and mistakes and fix them, and am looking at a used black mpc 1000 and JJOS…

    • Thank You!

      Indeed, the MPC 1000 (with JJOS) and the 2500 are still the best modern MPC (in my point of view, just like the 3000 is the best vintage MPC).
      AKAI did really screw up the software… including on the MPC Renaissance to be honest.

      LOTS, LOTS and LOTS of bugs, missing features and workflow/navigation issues. If you’re a happy hardware user and you want to stay at Akai, I wouldn’t recommend you to resell anything for the MPC Renaissance… definitely not!

      If you really want to be “In The Box” user, I would recommend you to look at NI Maschine. As I described, it’s not perfect, but from a software point of view, after few months now, I can say: it’s way way ahead from Akai.

      If you are a hardcore Akai user and want definitely be “ITB”, I’d recommend to wait a little bit longer. Akai is doing a lot of update (that’s actually a very good point for them in comparison to NI that release an update once in a year or so and takes for ever to fix very basic issues such MIDI). So, sooner or later I hope Akai might have a better software, more complete, with less bugs/issues, and a faster workflow.

      By keeping the old school workflow (that every MPC users blindly know), it makes the transition to the MPC Renaissance easier, but a lot of feature and workflow are really “too old school” and not the most efficient way to do things TODAY!

      Being myself a HUGE software users (because I have tons of plugins and sample bank), I was already ITB for a while. I was only using the MPC as a midi sequencer… that’s it. That’s something Maschine does pretty decently now, but it makes it even better due to the great integration with software (something the MPC doesn’t really do well) and that’s why I’m keeping using Maschine over the MPC Renaissance.

      My only hope with this article and comments is that someone from both Akai and Native Instruments will read it and will consider the negative points we made to hopefully fix them on a future update. Having better product, that’s all I’m wishing for in the end… Regardless if it’s from Akai, from NI, from both… or even from someone else 😉

      • Hey Spidouz!
        Lots of interesting developments in the world of digital audio! What do you think about the Ableton PUSH? Do you intend to get one yourself? Do you think that Akai is shooting itself in the foot by making a device for Ableton that can do many things inside of LIVE that are very similiar to the way a MPC works? Dont you find it curious that the PUSH has no wave-form editor, which would make it superior to the MPC STUDIO controller? And what about Komplete 9 dropping?
        Do you think that NI will have a special promo to lure us MPC guys off the fence with a package deal that includes K9 and Maschine? That would be really tempting!
        I also have joined the NI Maschines user forum and have been lurking around looking for common problems with the build of the MK2, and the 1.8 update…Thanks again for your fair and balanced review of these products. Even the mainstream music magazines won’t give the real story on items they review, being afraid of losing advertising money.

      • Hey Man, Thanks for your words! Well, let me take point by point (to be sure to not forget anything, there’s a lot of question in your comment ;)).

        What about Push? Well, it seems to be a very nice product. I haven’t touch it or see it in person, so I only base my opinion from videos I saw on the internet. It’s a nice concept, and not really surprising if you ask me. It’s the kind of product we will see more and more. Having a dedicated surface to control your DAW, it’s very nice. It’s still different yet to Maschine or the MPC-Ren which are very focus on beatmaking/producing… where Push is more about the overall management. It seems like Push is still far from Maschine/MPC-Ren for beat making. Of course, they have all the basics, but it seems to miss a lot (mainly in comparison of the software integration on Maschine). But that’s the kind of stuff that could come later with software update, so I’m not too worry for Ableton 😉

        I don’t think Akai is shooting itself in the foot, because in any case, they might still get some money back for the controller. And from what I see for now, it seems that the guys who use Maschine/MPC-Ren, will still continue to use them even if they buy Push (because you can still load Maschine and the MPC-Ren inside Live and because you won’t get the same user experience for beat making from Push). One day, the frontier between this two kind of products will probably more blurry (or might even disappear)… but it might also be the day where Maschine 2.0/3.0/4.0/Whatever… or MPC-Ren software will be more improved to the point they might also become full DAW by themselves. I’m just thinking out loud.

        In any case, we’re still far from this moment. So depending your kind of usage, you might like Push better, or Maschine or the MPC-Ren better… that’s definitely up to anyone to try and to choose. One sure thing is that we can’t try to take one product to do exactly what the other do… It’s not gonna work and it’s gonna fail in any ways.

        Komplete 9 seems nice. Being myself a Komplete 8 Ultimate user, I can’t wait to upgrade to K9U. Like anyone, I’m a sound whore and I love to have new toys to play with. The additional Kontakt bank in K9U looks very interesting (The Giant, Action Strings, Session Horns, Rickenbacker Bass, Abbey Road Vintage Drummer, Heavycity Evolve, Damage)… that’s a tons of sounds (and Gigabytes). The new version of Battery 4 seems OK, but I’ll be honest, I don’t really use it much since I use Maschine and I can load my sample directly in it. I don’t know much Skanner XT, but it’s still cool to get it. What I’m very curious to try is Monark, the new synth that looks like a Minimoog and is supposed to sound really close to the real thing. I already have tons of synth, but I’m not against to try a new one… just like I will appreciate the new effects (Premium Tube, Solid Mix, Driver, RC reverbs, etc…).

        So in the end, yeah, that’s good news. And for the ones who don’t have anything and don’t have a previous version of Komplete, it’s definitely the kind of bundle anyone should buy… and if you’re serious to make music, try to save to buy the Ultimate version (or wait until summer or so, we will probably see some special summer 50% discount… or maybe even some bundle with Maschine mk2 just like last year). Once you have the Ultimate version, you virtually have everything you need to make music.

        Of course, you might want to have another FX plugins, another Synth, or a better sample library, etc… but it’s just bonuses. Because with Komplete Ultimate you can already make a good song well produced. And everything is well integrated in Maschine, that’s one of the reason why I like Maschine over the MPC-Ren so far… because of the software, including Komplete Ultimate 😉

        Nonetheless, once you have a full version of Kontakt, you can also have access to a tons and tons of sample library made for Kontakt (sometimes free or very cheap (few bucks)), but very nice sound. Lately I played with the 0on3 libraries, the HollowSun, Hide Away Studio, Cinematique Instruments, NorCtrack, Digital Sound Factory, etc… A lot of very nice banks you can use in Kontakt. I love them!

        I’m still using Machine mk1 even if I wish I could use the mk2. It would make so much sense with the colors for each pads, groups, etc.. As far I know, there’s no “major” issue with Machine mk2 and 1.8 update. Of course, there’s probably some bugs and feature request (as usual), but so far I use it and I haven’t had any “crisis moment”. Aside the feature I wish Maschine would have (already mentioned in the post), I’m pretty satisfy with it… not like with the MPC-Renaissance my friend is using in the studio that is crashing quite often. But Akai is doing a hell of job to fix things, so I’m still confident sooner or later they will catch up on the major issues and then it’s just gonna be a choice of taste and color… as well as habits. The new update for Akai is already fixing a lot of things and updates are coming more often and quickly than NI that is apparently releasing only one major update a year… which is quite annoying when you’re still waiting over and over for some features.

        About my “balanced point of view”, it’s still “just my point of view”. It’s up to you to make your own opinion in the end. I just gave mine the way I think it and without any restriction due to marketing, financial and/or professional relations. I had worked with Ableton and NI by the past, but I’m not related with them anymore, neither with Akai. Now I can speak freely and that’s why I do so… because, indeed, in magazine (or even some specialized forums), nobody really speak freely. When I wrote my review on NI and Akai forums, it didn’t come out pretty well because I was probably saying some stuff companies (and fanboys) don’t like to read. I’ve even been deleted and banned from the Akai forum.

        That’s why I decided to write this “review” on this blog. I’m glad to know it does help others and it’s appreciated.


  6. Great review bro. I think the only thing you forgot to mention was the pice difference which to some people is huge. Ren is like $400.00 bucks more the the MK2 $1099 vs $699. That simply cannot be over looked. I have an old school MPC 2000 for my hardware needs. However, I’m almost completely in the box these days.

    • Indeed you’re right to mention the price. I didn’t forget.

      Let’s just keep in mind that the MPC-Ren has an midi and audio embedded interface. So it would have been better to compare Maschine to the MPC Studio, which wasn’t available at the time of the test, and is in the same price range.

      So if we want to add to Maschine a 4 midi out/2 midi in interface with audio similar to the MPC-Ren, we would add probably another $300-350.

      So we would end up around the same price range. It would be a little bit cheaper but not that much.

      Therefor I just did prefer to not mention the price.

  7. Great Review! I’ve been doing heavy research and I’m really in between on these two products. I love certain features of Maschine for its software integration & GUI but I hate its workflow with making complete songs, then on the other hand I love the MPC Ren’s work, sound & build quality but I hate its GUI & NO 64 BIT is truly disappointing….I’m a big Eastwest, Omnisphere & Trillian user so no 64 bit alone almost makes it a deal breaker, I would love to know what plugins people are using with the Ren without 64 bit support. My setup now consist of Ableton Live & Pro Tools so I’m really looking to get back to the MPC workflow I’ve been use to with my beloved MPC 3000. My ideal setup is to completely be ITB for the production and exporting to Pro Tools for all audio & mixing needs….I really want the Ren but I’m holding out still on the fence between the two

    • Thanks!

      I completely understand your situation. And that’s also why I did this test/review (few time ago).

      Regarding Maschine workflow, I’d say once we know it, it’s very very efficient, fast and simple… and, I have to admit, even better than the Akai workflow which could be a little bit archaic on some “old” features today, because they kept the “old way” to do it, which is not the best and fastest way now with computers.

      However, I have to say that if you’re used to the MPC, it’s gonna be harder to use Maschine because it’s definitely not a copycat of the MPC. Maschine has its own environment and workflow, while the MPC Ren is using a very similar environment and workflow from the previous MPCs, which makes easier to learn it.

      If you’re using big software and wish to say ITB, I’d recommend to look more deeply at Maschine mk2 (maybe even find one to try it over a week or so). After the first day of headache to understand the NI layout and features, you should come easily to the point to find your marks and use Maschine as easier as you were using the MPC 3000… but with software.

      My guess is that most of MPC Renaissance users are mainly using it with samples on pads (just like the old MPCs) and with some non-sample synth (Sylenth, Massive, Electrax, LuSH, etc…). Otherwise, I don’t understand neither how the 64-bits can not be an issue for them.

      Also, if you’re using Ableton Live, you might also check the new Ableton Push Controller. It’s another story and a little bit different from Maschine or the MPC Ren, but in some cases, it might fit the bill.

      My 2 cents,

      • Good points….I like Ableton but its still missing that hands on control that the MPC & Maschine offers especially for control over samples, Push looks cool but still missing a few major aspects….Maschine seems to be the ideal solution at this point it seems to have a leg up on the Ren im just going to take a chance on the Mk2 and probably take a strong look at Komplete 8 Ultimate too…

      • Yes, Ableton Push is a version 1.0, so it’s still missing A LOT of features. But from an overall point of view, it could become a very nice controller device, to have direct access and hands on the DAW.

        If you plan to use Komplete Ultimate (just like I do), you’d rather look at Maschine. The integration with Komplete Ultimate goes further (not perfect yet, but already great).

        However, be careful, I do suspect the new Komplete 9 is coming pretty soon. I’d say in April… right after the end of current special price discounts, just in time for MusikMesse Trade Show.

        Everything’s ready. NI did release the last months few content (new Kontakt Bank, new effects, etc…). Just enough to bring reasons to upgrade (on top of the awaited regular annual updates such Kontakt 6, Reaktor 6, Guitar Rig 6, etc…)

        Too bad NI is keeping slow annual updates, because in the other hand, Akai is coming quickly with a lot of updates to show to the public they’re listening… which is definitely not the feeling we could get from NI with so much things users do request since the version 1.0 of Maschine… and still not there yet.

  8. Hey Spidouz,

    I read your blog and i must say.. It kinda stung to know how much I didn’t know about these equipment.
    A little background: I’ve been serving in the military for about 4 years, but I’ve been making beat for a while now. I bought my Macbook Pro while I was deployed in Kuwait. I definitely hear BIG Difference in my quality of beats.
    I”ve learned alot from since I’ve started, but all I use is logic(which is mostly MIDI, besides the few samples I drop in there manually) and my Handy Dandy M-Audio 49 Key midi controller. I’ve been manually changing the effects on the logic plugins(because I’ve gotten so used to it in the desert) that I dnt even pay any mind to to the assignment knobs on my controller. But i Have been looking into some new equipment and been researching on the MK2 and the Akai-Ren and what do ya know?! I finally stumble across a blog that points out the pros and cons of the two.
    Now I have some NI software plugins(Massive, & Absynth) and didnt know much about software plugins in general…. Okay I dont know much. I also have a few sugar bytes plugins, but I was wondering with Logic Pro 9(and you might have covered this in one of your comments. Sorry if im repeating) which piece of equipment would you prefer?

    Im ready for whatever answer you give me. I’m just trying to learn as much as i can right now, but seeing how my time in the military is growiing, my time in my music career is diminishing, but I want to make sure that i have as much knowledge when i get out.

    Thank you,

    • Hi Rufiyo,

      I will reply to your email if that’s OK for you.
      It might be easier to respond specifically to your personal usage and keep the comment here on a big picture view.

      Everyone’s different and I don’t want to give any advise to anyone that could lead to a bad choice for someone else (because I would probably give another advise to someone else, depending his/her situation).


  9. I think the reason that they went with 32bit to start with is the reality is that MPC has always been a brand that has a anyone can do it appeal. The idea of HipHop in the beginning was any kid could save up get an MPC and make a beat that could storm the clubs and the charts. There are a lot of kids out there who still have 32 bit computers, they might struggle to afford a renaisaance or a studio, and they certainly would struggle to jistify it if it automatically meant they had to upgrade there computer just to use it, that would price it out there market. So I get the 32 bit, its keeping it accessable to everyone. HOwever I would have launched simultaneously with both 32bit to keep it accessable and 64bit for hte power users who need a 64 bit machine.

    • Hi Gordon,

      It could be a reason, but I think differently. Here’s why:

      If Akai would have been aware of the 32/64 bits that wouldn’t be yet affordable, they would have still release it on both 32 and 64 bits, because everyone knows that anytime soon, we will have 64 bits only system, even for the most affordable ones, or the oldest ones. The reason, I think, they just skip the 64 bits is due to their background and history.

      Most of MPC Users (and developers) so far, were using MPCs with very small sample files. Just some Drums Kicks, Snares, Hi-Hats, etc… or even some sampled vinyls, or even some stretched sampled instruments… but in the end, it was just tiny samples. That’s why we could use MPC with small size memory… few Megabytes only.

      So, when you consider the 3 Gigabytes limitation of a 32 bits system, it could seem like “more than enough”, which is right for this particular kind of use. But it wasn’t with the consideration of totally new kind of usage. That just reminds me a Bill Gates saying that “640K of memory is all that anybody with a computer would ever need”… which has been proved to be completely wrong with Gigabytes and Gigabytes of memory today, and probably Terabytes et Exabytes tomorrow…

      So, 3 GB of RAM is enough when you have few tiny samples per pads and you use the MPC-Ren for some drums or even some VST synth… the “old school way”. But once you start to use it the “new school way”, and start to have large VSTi and sample bank per pad, some things such Omnisphere, Kontakt, BFD2, etc… then you realize you can get several MB or even GB per Pad.

      Therefor, you know 3 GB of RAM will _NOT_ be enough and you know that the 32 bits limitation is not good at all and you should immediately develop your brand new software immediately in 64 bits. In my opinion, I just believe that if Akai didn’t do it, it’s just because they completely skip the “new school” because they probably have “no clue” of the real “software world” today. And this is confirmed when we can see a tons of software lacks, bugs and inconsistencies. As I already wrote, Akai is strong for the hardware “old school” side of it… but definitely not for the software “new school” of it.

      Akai did develop the MPC-Ren, to be able to use it _Exactly_ the same way we were using an MPC 2000, 3000, 2500, etc… but with the benefit to have it directly inside the computer. They apparently didn’t really think through to rethink completely the usage of “drumpad on a computer today”. That’s something NI actually did… and that’s also why the NI environment is completely different and could be “disturbing” for the guys that come from the MPC and are not used to this kind of environment.

      Akai had to keep the legacy… that’s something NI didn’t had to do. But by keeping some legacy, they also couldn’t rethink the environment from scratch and they had to keep some “complete non-sense” feature in today’s world. Things that were great 20 or 30 years ago, but that don’t make much sense today. By rethinking the environment, they would have, perhaps, realized that current users are using very large VSTis and Sample Banks… just because we can and it sounds way better.

      And even if Akai is making a lot of effort to change it (I saw some changes on the new release), it still makes me wonder when they will rethink their entire environment? If they haven’t done it now, when will they? I’d be tempted to say: probably never… therefor, even when they will release a 64 bits version, it might still be based on some old 32 bits foundations and some even older non-sense features. The same way NI will probably never release a new version with better Midi features.

      But at least, I know that with the time, we will, sooner or later, be using more and more software instead of hardware… and at some point, I wouldn’t care much about the midi stuff in NI Maschine, even if they will never include it. Where I will also care about the 64 bits and workflow on the new environment because that’s where the future goes with software.

      Both Akai and NI aren’t perfect now… but at least NI already have what we will need in the future. And that’s the reason why I did prefer to stick with Maschine for now.

      The 64 bits and Midi issues are not just some missing features from Akai and NI. It’s definitely showing the different philosophies and musical approaches of each company. That’s where the core value of each company probably stand for. Mark these words. We will think again about it in few years 😉

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  11. You cant compare the NI Machine MK2 to the Akai Ren… with that comparison Machine wins hands down just based on price point! You must compare the Maschine to the MPC Studio, thats more fair comparison.

    • When this test/review has been done the MPC Studio wasn’t yet released. And I’m not comparing price for this reason and only comparing only features that we can find on both the MPC Renaissance and Studio.

      I also didn’t mention the onboard I/O because if we add them to Maschine, the price is close to be the same on both unit.
      This is already mentioned if you would have read the whole thing.

    • Thanks!

      Few things changed since the review. Akai did release the 64 bits version as well as some workflow improvements with plugins (not as good as Maschine yet, but already way better and way faster updates than NI which is pretty silent right now for Maschine 1.9/2.0).

      NI is really slow to release new update, features and fix bugs… They should better to hurry up because Akai is coming back and Ableton is coming too with Push.

      Competition is really healthy in this case and I have no doubt both Maschine, MPC Ren/Studio and Push will become even better in a near future because of this competition.

    • Yep!

      I’ll wait on Maschine Studio and I’ll do a new review, but from the first preview of Maschine Studio and Maschine v2.0 and the MPC v.1.5, this time I doubt it’s gonna be pretty for Akai (because they’re now way behind NI). Sure Akai finally has the 64 bit and NI finally has more than 1 midi out… so it fix some of the points I was initially writting. But now there’s a bunch of new things too… (because we’re always more and more picky).

      • I will let some time to explore the new MPC 1.5 and Maschine 2.0 software.

        Also, I’m waiting on Maschine Studio to have an even more appropriate hardware comparison. I would have already tested if NI would have provide me one, but they haven’t (not even for review, which is actually bad for them because I have a lot of traffic here for people that wants and follow my previous test and review).

        So if I have to do on my own, I’m just gonna wait (Winter NAMM for sure, maybe even MusikMesse 2014 to see if nothing else will come by from Akai). Since I need to upgrade my complete personal setup (new Mac Pro, new OSX, new Protools 11, new Logic Pro X, and finally a new controller, it could be Maschine Studio, but it could also be a new Akai MPC, who knows?).

        So a new test won’t be for today or tomorrow and it’s because of NI (too bad because I’m already convinced they would probably have a huge advantage right now).

        Wait & See…

      • This is really cool!

        Thank’s for your work 🙂

        ps. I dont have big knowledge about music industry and how it works, why you will wait until Winter NAMM? Im interested cuz maybe it has some kind of discounts or something that I wanna use too 🙂

      • Well, Winter NAMM and MusikMesse are Music Trade Shows that happen every year. The Winter NAMM is in Anaheim (California) and MusikMesse is in Frankfurt (Germany). WNAMM generally happen in January and MusikMesse is around end of March/debut of April.

        It’s often during this two events that some of the manufactures do announce new products. It doesn’t mean we will have new product for sure, but if you’re willing to buy something around this period, sometimes it’s safer to wait for the trade show and see if there’s not a new model.

        Previously, it was almost the only way for professionals and the press to meet and then announce the new product and a great opportunity for business networking, work on some deal with retailers, maybe considering new partnership, etc… Of course now with internet, some manufacture just don’t care anymore about Trade Show and just announce the new products when they’re ready, even if it’s not during a Trade Show. That’s actually what NI did by announcing Maschine Studio in October.

        There’s other “Trade Show” and “Music Expo” that could be more or less related to the Music Industry (such AES, Light & Sound, Womex), but the most famous one are NAMM and MusikMesse.

        The NAMM happen twice a year (Winter NAMM and Summer NAMM). Typically, Winter NAMM is more focus on electronic instruments (DJ, Beatmachine, keyboards, DAW, etc…), while the Summer NAMM is often more focus on organic/electric instruments (Drums, Guitars, Amps). The Summer NAMM did happened in Austin, Texas for 2 years, but it is now back in Nashville, Tennessee and generally happen in July.

        Just before the Trade Shows, some manufacture do some very good discount to reduce the stock of what will become the “old model” once they’ll announce the new one. Some manufacture even do discount during the trade show period (just like they did lately for the Black Friday).

        I hope it help to know more about the MI and why I recommend to wait for this two events when we aren’t not that far away for them. I prefer to wait one month and have all info in my hand to take the best buying decision. Even if there’s no new model; one month or so won’t kill me 😉

        My 2¢

  12. new to both these tools and forums,so if I’m off topic I apologise,just from reading all the comments ppl here seem to have a better idea/opinion than other sites about these what I’d like info in is:
    For a total beginner what would be a good starting point?iv never used an mpc or machine so I’m open to any suggestions on either product as I’m not familiar with either so I don’t need to re-teach myself. So a 500,4000, Ren,studio etc. or any machine equivalent.

    Like 1,000’s of ppl who buy guitars or drum kits or whatever,they buy them cos they enjoy playing them to whatever their music is,
    For me Il be doing the same,I don’t want to be the next big thing-just want to enjoy playing a product and make a few main interest music wise is cut chemist and dj shadow if that helps.

    Cheers for reading and for any reply.

    • Hi David,

      Thank you for reading this test/review I wrote few time ago. I should revise it now with the release of Maschine Studio and Maschine 2.0 software, as well as the new MPC Software updates. It would probably makes more sense to understand this reply (Because with the introduction of Maschine 2.0, NI did remove pretty much all the negative things we could find, and is still ahead of any competition in terms of software).

      So in few words: If you have no specific experience with any device, I’d recommend you to go the NI way.

      The workflow is way easier, faster and more modern than the Akai workflow (that drags some legacy non-sense for today’s production. It could make perfect sense for someone that comes from 20 years of using Akai hardware MPC, but it doesn’t make any sense in modern hybrid solution anymore). NI had the chance to have no history and customers, and therefor they could come with a complete new workflow, which is in fact not only easier, but also way faster, even for some advanced features.

      With Maschine 2.0, they did solve most of the issue. We can now have multiple Midi Out, with can have more Midi control (Prog Change, SysEX, etc…), redesign of some menus for better reading, and we have some nice improvement such internal routing and mixer. It also provides some nice additional sounds (such the Drums Synth). So, in the end, they pretty much solve all things we couldn’t dislike in the previous version. From my point of view, it’s just like they were reading this post and they thought: OK, let’s prove him wrong. The only thing they’re still missing, IMHO, is their Midi Timing. We can get there by tweaking the Swing and stuff, but it could be even better. I do know how, but apparently they’re not interesting to my ideas.

      Akai, in the other hand, did get the Midi Timing pretty good immediately. But there’s no way to turn it off… which is the downside. At least we can choose on Maschine to have it very rigid if we want to. Akai also solved the 64 bits issue, the way to handle plugin between tracks, and the numerous bugs and crash they had with the first version. But unfortunately, they’re still lacking of a proper software with a nice UI, easier workflow and better integration with software.

      Depending your budget, you could have the choice between Maschine Studio (top of the line), Maschine mk2 (still a great model) and Maschine Mikro (entry model). I do _NOT_ recommend Maschine Mikro. Yes, you can save few bucks by buying the entry mode, but the workflow isn’t as good as the two others with their larger screen, 8 knobs for editing, and more buttons to control. Maschine Mikro is great for someone who already has a main drum machine controller (such MPC Renaissance, Ableton Push, etc…) and wants a taste of NI. But if you want to buy a NI controller as your main Drum Controller, I’d recommend you to go with Maschine mk2 or Maschine Studio (depending your budget).

      If you can afford it, Maschine Studio is the very “Must Have” model right now. With its two large color display and additional buttons (I thought were missing in my test), NI has a solution no other manufacture can even come close. With Maschine Studio, you can REALLY use it without touching the computer keyboard, mouse and even without any computer display to look at.

      You can have a very nice color view of the plugin directly from the Maschine Studio controller, have a view on pictures for each libraries in the browser, it makes the navigation and selection so easy and better than the tiny monochrome display we can find for exemple on a MPC Renaissance.

      Nonetheless, NI is still coming with a very very nice sound bundle. And THAT is very good. Sure, we can use any plugins, any sample library we want with both system. But what comes with MPC Renaissance is not really good, regardless the kind of music you do. While what comes with Maschine is already a very good start, whatever the kind of music you do. It could be a very good start for a beginner that probably don’t own any other software or sound library. And, of course, we reach a complete new world once we use Maschine with Komplete 9 Ultimate.

      I have tons of software and I own (or did own) dozen and dozen of keyboards, expanders, drum machines, etc… And today, you can just give me a very powerful Mac, Maschine Studio and Komplete 9 Ultimate and I think I could have enough to make whatever music I want. Sure I still like to use my other plugins and sound libraries I own… and they work perfectly fine in Maschine, but the “Maschine Studio + Komplete 9 Ultimate bundle” is in my very honest opinion, the best investment anyone can do today. It’s the best ratio Quantity/Quality/Price you can get and it will sound so much better than anything else you can find (including some of the very expensive top of the line $4k hardware “Workstation”), and with Maschine Studio, you will get the same (or better) user experience we were used to with old rock-solid hardware solution.

      Again, I’m not working for NI and I am not a shareholders to this company. I have absolutely NO personal or professional interest (same with Akai, Ableton, Arturia or any other potential concurrent brand). I do recommend NI products so openly, just because they’re just making very good stuff.

      Note: The Maschine Studio + Komplete 9 Ultimate bundle could be very expensive for someone that just starts. So I’d recommend to wait for some “special discount” (it happens time to time), or just go with Maschine Studio first, and buy Komplete 9 Ultimate later.

      Another Note: Maschine Studio price did drop to $799, which makes it even more competitive than before. It was already a no brainer, even at a high $999 price, but now at $799, I can’t find any reasons to not recommend it.

      I hope my reply will help 😉


      • First off thanks for reading and replying so quickly and for giving a detailed reply.

        I really wished that akai would have gotten better reviews as I love their retro look,they were the pros choice for a long time and any review iv read ppl like there feel but Iv also heard of a lot of crashes and bugs so I’m heading down the maschine road. My budgets not too bad so machine studio is the one for me I think and it’s on “offer” here in Ireland&UK for €800,plus upgrade my laptop so I’m looking around €900 and if I’m to add komplete9 ultimate it’s another €900 so Il maybe leave that for now but there are shops selling it on a deposit/installment option so might do that over the summer.I’m sure the studio will come with enough sounds and software to keep me busy until then through.

        Again thanks for the feedback,info and great review.

        Cheers david.

      • Hi David,

        I understand perfectly. And don’t get me wrong, the MPC Renaissance is a nice product, and it’s the perfect choice for someone who has a long time Akai experience and workflow. But they’re not currently the best anymore in that category. They took a long time to react when NI first release Maschine (Maybe they weren’t really believing in the Hybrid solution, controller + software). Which means, NI had a lot of time to get well ahead… mainly in their speciality: the software (and content).

        And in the end, it’s what makes the difference. For instance, I do believe Akai is doing right thing to be associated with Retronym for the iMPC Pro. It looks really interesting for an iPad app and Retronym seems to know how to do right software, way better than Akai.

        Nonetheless, if money isn’t a problem, Maschine Studio is indeed the best bang for the buck you can currently get. And if I were you, I’d wait for Komplete, because we will surely see some discount by this summer, and probably even some new version… I’d be surprised, NI is pretty consistent. The studio already comes with a tons of sounds, that’s for sure… and you can definitely make music. Between all the drums samples, the Drums Synth, Massive, etc… it’s a nice package.

        However, in the end if you don’t share this opinion, please don’t hesitate to come back here to express it and explain why… it could still help other guys to have a different point of view. I’m not pretending to know the ultimate “truth”, I’m just giving my opinion… like anyone else 🙂

        Feel free to ask any question too… if I can help 🙂


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